>> well, president obama reached out to hu jintao right after president obama was elected. and right after he took office. he's met with hu jintao more than any previous president had met with a counterpart. they have met something upwards of a dozen times. many phone calls. i'm sure that this pattern will continue with the next chinese leadership. the chinese haven't done us a favor yet of telling us who will be in the new leadership. that will be announced on november 8. i think we're all confident we know that the general secretary of the congress party will be xi jinping. will have a pretty good idea of at least four members of the politburo standing committee, and perhaps other members. i think, the important thing here is that china needs to resume the path of aggressive reform in the economic and political area. i think xi jinping is a very, very smart man who understands what china needs to do. a real linkage between economic and political reform in china. these are not unrelated. again, going back to the road report -- world bank report i mentioned, one of the key